[MILSIM][OUTDOOR] laser tag italia [CENA] 185 EURO

odpowiedz z Włoch. cena sprzetu 185 euro, daja instrukcje jak wmontowac w AEG:D fajnie fajnie:)

jeszcze trzeba by popytac dokladnie o zasieg.

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JEDNO PYTANIE DO WSZYSTKICH: czy G36 zrobiony przez DE jest podobny w budowie wewnetrznej do G36 firmy JG? Ew czy G36 DE ma wytrzymale body? W JG body wydaje sie solidne.

Hi Micha,

Nice to know that we reached Poland too Very Happy

Well, first of all, we also use miles tag based sistem. We started our experiments 4 years ago working on the first 3.0 and then 4.0 miles tag.
Actually Miles tag website announces ver. 5.30 but seems they have more changes and maybe not fully functional. Our opinion is to continue to use ver 5.20 which is already quite powerful, easy to manage.

Our system is now based on 5.20 version to which we add some function or maybe some little corrections to the original firmware. In next spring we will come out with our new firmware which will have a lot of news like the points downloads and a new audio pcb support (maybe you red about the difficult to find out the ISD chip...)

Well, although we have no direct connection with miles tag website, we are almost working same way. It means we sale our own modifying kit which include all parts to modify an ASG or to create a weapon.

We sell this kit at 185€ each (it includes the CPU board, the ISD board, the optic with 30 mm lens, and all other accessories). We obviously include also the instruction in english.

We have no instruction (paper or on the web) to build up a DIY system. I mean, if you are looking to some instruction which explain the function of each parts, we have not that... There are already lot of documentation in english which gives all basic information.

As I told you we operate exactly like Jim, so we have all other jobs and this is just an hobby which nearly to became a second job...
So, if you want to enjoy our system, we will be glad to have you in our group. We can consider to make you a good discount for quantities if you would like to manage your local market.

Actually I don't know if you are interested into sell the kits or just into make the explanation website.

Now, for the other your questions:
- Yes, we use the plastic/metallic body of the air soft gun to build up the weapon. Thats is the more easiest and cheaper way to do Wink

- our instruction explain how to connect all electronic parts, not how to modify the ASG. I mean, you have to play a bit to understand how to fit the electronics into the ASG. Not all ASG are the same internally and so we cannot give a unique instruction. Only for the G36/M85 Double Eagle plastic model we can give more suggestion due to the fact this is the model we usually use for our renting armery.
- about our system, as I told you is based on Miles Tag 5.20 version. So basically the function are like that. We only reactivated some function (like the use of medics) which where disabled in that version, although present into the software.
-we use two, triple sensor, sensor head. each sensor head has three sensors inside which covers around 250 degrees each. We can assure that are sufficient to cover all areas around the player. In addiction we have the sensor on the weapon tip in order to void that the player stay hide while firing (e.g. completelly hide with only the weapon tip outside).
- the beam increases with distance due to the fact that all those systems uses IR beam, not a real laser. The IR beam is safe than laser but is same environment than a normal light, although invisible. The beam at 100 mt it is something closed to 2.5mt. Obviously it is less as more you are closed to the target. At 7mt it should be something like 40 cm. This means you need to aim with more precision on the sensors if you are closed to the target.
-The system is very reliable and easy to manage. We had never electronics failure. Only some mechanical diseases due to some "hard" player Very Happy

Do not esitate to contact me for further questions Wink

Plastik DE jest duuużo gorszy niż JG i są różnice w budowie. JG jest bardziej zbliżone do CA.
DE to bardziej zwykły plastik z zabawek, a nie ABS. To może być z tym co wspomnieli "hard play" Smile

Biegałem trochę po lesie z DE i generalnie da radę ale połamać też nie jest tak trudno.
Poszukam gdzieś robiłem foty DE jak go rozbierałem.

BTW To nie pierwszy raz jak ktoś pisze, ze przestawił się na system MILESa, bo bardziej mu to pasowało.

poszlo zapytanie do Włochów jeszcze raz.

lup, możesz wrzucić te zdjęcia?

NIe mam ich na kompie. Płytki musze poprzeglądać Sad

Panowie jeżeli coś się da wsadzić do G36 DE to tak samo wsadzi sie do G36 CA, JG i inych. Replika DE to jedna z gorszych jakościowo al ejednak już generacja oparta na metalowym GB i generalnie układ "środka" jest podobny na tyle że nie będzie z tym problemów.

Zależy, które G36 DE masz na myśli. Są z metalowym GB i z plasticzanym, ze aż... Smile

Nie no o plasticzanm nawet bym nie zaczynał myśleć Wink

TA-DA!
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no i ogolnie Włosi to spoko ludzie Smile

kolega Fabio odpisal na ileśtam moich maili.

1. 2,5 metra szerokosci wiazki na 100 metrach nie robi gry zbyt latwej?

Well, seems a lot but you have to think that first of all the omogeneity of the beam is not the same in all points. The intensity is more in the middle. Than, although the diameter si more than two metres, at 100 meter distance even 1° of aiming error means few meters error, so you need to be very precise also if the beam is wide Wink

2. czy mozna zmiescic wasz sprzet w jakims M4?

M4 and M16 can be modified but requires more ability to fit inside everything due to the fact that they have not so much space once the gearbox is removed... There are many models of M4 and M16 and many of them are made of metal. For the first experiments we always suggest to start with plastic ASG which costs no more than 30-40 euros in order to learn the skills how to build the weapons and how the system works. Then you can build up a better estetical weapon taking out the electronics from the plastic one or buying another.

you can use all weapon you want. Someone needs more work, some other less. Some one are more stiff, some other brakes more easily... My personal opinion is that is a nonsense to use a hiogh end ASG like CA, MARUI or others. Expecially cause in the last time the market were populated of lot of chinese replica in which the plastics are same than the big brands. Obviousl the gear box of those weapon is not the best, but for our purposes is not importan

link do jakiejs tronki z ASG, wg Fabio tam jest tanio:
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Thor, dalej masz wątpliwości, o które DE chodzi? Very Happy

Ale tak poza tym to wygląda to całkiem obiecująco...

Fabio, z którym się kontaktuje, wspominal, ze uzywaja tanich chinoli,bo nie chca wydawac ojro na CA czy GP, bo to bezsens. byle sie gun trzymal. mowil,ze zrobili M4 chyba w JG. wiec jak w JG, to pojdzie tez w BOYI, ktore ma tanie metalowe.

jak w M4, to w G36 z JG tez.

no i @thor_ TAK, mi tez wyglada obiecujaco.